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 Post subject: about soteriology
PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 2010 10:16 am 
Is it correct about my thought about soteriology : Salvation is a gift from Heavenly Father by Yeshua's crucifixion... and then we must do ALL Torah commandments in the salvation (Paul said this in his letter)... Yeshua has said in Matt 7:21-23

"Not everyone who(B) says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will(C) enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who(D) does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22(E) On that day(F) many will say to me, 'Lord, Lord, did we not(G) prophesy in your name, and cast out demons(H) in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?' 23(I) And then will I declare to them, 'I(J) never knew you;(K) depart from me,(L) you workers of lawlessness.'

What's your thought? Is it correct?

My second question, do you believe in sola fide?

My third question, is man able to do ALL Torah commandments?

How about Christians who believe in Jesus but do ONLY HALF of the Torah (like not eat kosher but do love their neighbor)? Are they go to the hell?

I'm sorry I'm poor in English, I hope you can get my points. Thanks.


  
 
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 5:48 pm 
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Is it correct about my thought about soteriology : Salvation is a gift from Heavenly Father by Yeshua's crucifixion... and then we must do ALL Torah commandments in the salvation (Paul said this in his letter)... Yeshua has said in Matt 7:21-23

"Not everyone who(B) says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will(C) enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who(D) does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22(E) On that day(F) many will say to me, 'Lord, Lord, did we not(G) prophesy in your name, and cast out demons(H) in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?' 23(I) And then will I declare to them, 'I(J) never knew you;(K) depart from me,(L) you workers of lawlessness.'

What's your thought? Is it correct?

My second question, do you believe in sola fide?

My third question, is man able to do ALL Torah commandments?

How about Christians who believe in Jesus but do ONLY HALF of the Torah (like not eat kosher but do love their neighbor)? Are they go to the hell?

I'm sorry I'm poor in English, I hope you can get my points. Thanks.


This is an error. First of all, the 613 commandments (taryag mitzvot) were never intended to be fulfilled by everyone. There are laws specific to women (i.e., niddah), priests (only), Levites (only), lepers, and so on. Both Moses and David "changed the law." Moses made concession to the hardness of people's heart by allowing divorce (Matt. 19:8), and David began the construction of the Temple, even though there is no explicit commandment for building the Temple in the Torah. Ezra and the Great Assembly likewise changed the script of Torah, though this was likewise forbidden. There are numerous other examples (see, for example, http://www.hebrew4christians.com/Articl ... torah.html and http://www.hebrew4christians.com/Articl ... redux.html).

For a series of articles on these sorts of questions, please see:

http://www.hebrew4christians.com/Articl ... icles.html

Regarding those who work "lawlessness," I would remind you that the greatest commandment of all is to exercise faith in Yeshua as your Savior from the curse of the law. In other words, those who disobey Yeshua and His gospel are the true lawbreakers, since He is the King and Judge of the world....

http://www.hebrew4christians.com/Articl ... tzvah.html

Shalom!



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